I totally agree with zip's assesment of odu and how they stay in most games. I was at the hillsdale game last week and although the final was 35-10 I thought they gave a good account of themselves against the #9 team in the country. They results don't show it but they play hard and don't give up, and some pretty good d*** hitting dished out by the boys also. Their day will come and I think it just might be this weekend. Hope so. Good luck ODU.